tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post5138523711479580325..comments2024-03-28T00:26:20.590-07:00Comments on out there: Start planning your summer epicUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post-32548218605874591932008-03-18T15:18:00.000-07:002008-03-18T15:18:00.000-07:00Yeah Zoltan Malocsay covered that in his "Trails G...Yeah Zoltan Malocsay covered that in his "Trails Guide - Denver to Pikes Peak", but he never offered an update as the new editions rolled out. <BR/><BR/>My understanding is Schubarth was ruled a federal road predating private property, but that didn't sit well with some of the homeowners in the area who had attempted to install a permanent gate to keep people out.<BR/><BR/>But I too have never heard of another incident beyond the one you describe. Maybe there's a "where do things stand now" story in this for Dave, Andy & Dena (though perhaps the USFS doesn't want the publicity - You shine a light on this, and use most certainly will increase).<BR/><BR/>There are some spectacular trails & loops up there though, and they are way underutilized.Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001572149457825955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post-5660361003423728252008-03-18T14:44:00.000-07:002008-03-18T14:44:00.000-07:00A private property owner up there 10-15 years ago ...A private property owner up there 10-15 years ago tried to deny access to the Pike Forest, including brandishing firearms at people traveling on the road. The DA got involved and issued a restraining order. Don't think it's been an issue since. So there is some basis in fact. I was kidding about exaggerating this legend to discourage visitors. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post-86293533200057770092008-03-18T12:03:00.000-07:002008-03-18T12:03:00.000-07:00LOL Bill. You saying that from personal experienc...LOL Bill. You saying that from personal experience? Or you just want to keep people out? Cause I gotta tell you I've always heard that, never seen it.Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001572149457825955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post-80749852019072840902008-03-17T19:31:00.000-07:002008-03-17T19:31:00.000-07:00Anonymous, I think the server was overloaded this ...Anonymous, I think the server was overloaded this am. I couldn't get it for a while, but came back and voila!<BR/>Zen, sounds like the unpleasant miles on RTP may be more than enough to offset the cool single track bits and discourage many mountain bikers. About the Schubarth area, I think we should keep putting out word that the redneck bubbas and militia camps make this a little like running the river in Deliverance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post-84298821454848200552008-03-17T14:39:00.000-07:002008-03-17T14:39:00.000-07:00That's cool though admittedly I do hope the Ring t...That's cool though admittedly I do hope the Ring the Peak trail - doesn't become a mountain bike mecca. A bike here & there is cool, but there are certain parts like Crags, Horsethief or Esther where a lot of bikes would not mix with the number of hikers that use these often steep & narrow trails.<BR/><BR/>Frankly I'm surprised the local mountain biking community doesn't exploit the wide open and rolling terrain of the Rampart between the Springs & Woodland Park more. There are just endless miles of trails up there - like out in Schubarth - just begging for adoption & use.Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001572149457825955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17548084.post-49314196026627419682008-03-17T11:31:00.000-07:002008-03-17T11:31:00.000-07:00The link doesn't work. Sounds fun, though.The link doesn't work. Sounds fun, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com